I get so many questions asking me about
genealogy searches using a professional that I thought I'd ask Tony of Scottish
Roots to do a search on my own ancestry and use it as an example of
what can be found. It should of course be noted that depending on
your own line of descent there may be more or indeed less information
available but at least this will give you an idea. This
Standard Search covers research into one line throughout the
period of Statutory Civil Registration plus Old Parish Registers, Census
Returns etc. and costs £185.00. I asked Tony to give me his
commentary on this investigation and suggest what might be done next and
you can see this at the bottom of the report.
An
Investigation into the Ancestry of Alastair McIntyre
The information given in
advance was that Alastair was born on 31st January 1951 in
Glasgow to John Gilmour McIntyre and Isabel Brown.
A search for the marriage
of a John Gilmour McIntyre failed to reveal any likely leads. Instead the
computer indexing system was used searching for a marriage between John
McIntyre and Isabel Brown. This led to the discovery of the following
marriage:
On 16th July
1937, at 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow, after Banns according to the
forms of the Church of Scotland
JOHN MCINTYRE
(General Warehouse Salesman – Bachelor) age 27, of 21 Plant Street,
Glasgow, son of Alexander McIntyre (Lorryman) and Jessie McIntyre m/s
Brock
[marriage to]
ISABEL FOWLER BROWN
(Typist – Spinster) age 25, of 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow,
daughter of James Brown (Engine Fitter – Journeyman) and Anne
Brown m/s Reid
Clergyman: Francis Wm
Rae, Minister of Yoker
Witnesses: Arichibald
Stewart, 50 Acorn Street, Glasgow SE
Jessie F Brown, 421
Langholm Street, Yoker W4
(Ref: 1937m/Partick
Glasgow 644/14-186)
m/s indicates maiden
surname.
It can be seen that John
did not mention a middle name of Gilmour at the time of this marriage.
No birth could be found for
a John Gilmour McIntyre during the period 1909-1911. There was a
considerable number of John McIntyre births during this period. All those
within Glasgow (about 8) were examined but none of them was that being
searched.
It was decided to put this
search on one side for the time being and to search for the parents’
marriage. Using the co-ordinate indexing system, this was found as
follows:
On 4th
September 1903, at 40 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire, after Banns
according to the forms of the Established Church of Scotland
ALEX MCINTYRE
(General Labourer – Bachelor) age 25, of 40 Gateside Street, Largs,
Ayrshire, son of John McIntyre (Butcher) and Elizabeth McIntyre m/s
Boyd
[marriage to]
JESSIE BROCK
(Spinster) age 24, of 40 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire, daughter
of Robert Brock (Tinsmith and Gasfitter) and Elizabeth Brock m/s
Gilmour
Witnesses: John Brown and
Mary MacGregor
(Ref: 1903m/Largs,
Ayrshire 602/1-14)
This indicates the source
of the Gilmour middle name attributed to the couple’s son John.
A further search for his
birth, this time in Largs, failed to reveal anything. A quick search of
the death indexes showed that John Graham McIntyre died in Grangemouth in
1986. The certificate wasn’t examined.
In searching for the birth
of Alexander it would be useful to know where he was born so a search was
made for him in the 1891 Census when he would have been aged about 11. The
census returns are house surveys carried out every ten years from 1841.
They provide details such as name, age, occupation, place of birth, etc
for each person living at the address on the night the census was carried
out. Those for 1841 give far less information and the most recent open to
public inspection are those for 1891.
Taking advantage of the
name index to the 1891 Census, Alexander and family were eventually found
as follows:
32 …*… Street,
Largs, Ayrshire – 5th April 1891
John McIntyre Head Married
40 Butcher Ayrshire, Largs
Elisabeth McIntyre Wife Married 28 Ayrshire, Largs
Alex McIntyre Son 12 Scholar Ayrshire, Largs
Maggie McIntyre Daug 8 Scholar Ayrshire, Largs
(Ref: 1891Cen/Largs,
Ayrshire 602, bk7, p19)
The property had 3 windowed
rooms and John was shown as being employed.
* indicates illegibility or
partial legibility throughout this report.
As the 1881 Census also has
a name index the same family were also sought but surprisingly couldn’t
be found. The following entry in Largs was however noted, it being assumed
that two butchers in Largs with the same name are likely to be related in
some way.
7 Townhead Close,
Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881
Jane McIntyre Head Widow 54
Ayrshire, Largs
John McIntyre Son Unmarr 27 Butcher Ayrshire, Largs
Hugh McIntyre Son Unmarr 24 House joiner Ayrshire, Largs
Agnes McIntyre Mother Widow 76 Ayrshire, Largs
(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs,
Ayrshire 602, bk6, p22)
Surprisingly, no trace
could be found of Alexander’s birth in Largs but his sister Margaret’s
birth was discovered:
On 26th
March 1882 at 8.20pm at Main Street, Largs, MARGARET BLAIR MCINTYRE
was born, daughter of John McIntyre (Butcher – Journeyman) and
Elizabeth McIntyre m/s Blair
Marriage of parents: 24th
March 1882
Informant: John McIntyre
(Flesher), father
(Ref: 1882b/Largs,
Ayrshire 602-11)
It is assumed that the
informant John gave his mother’s maiden name instead of his wife’s by
mistake.
So this suggests that
Alexander was born prior to the marriage of John and Elizabeth which was
found as follows:
On 24th
March 1882 at the Manse, Largs, after Banns according to the forms of
the Established Church of Scotland
JOHN MCINTYRE
(Butcher, Journeyman – Bachelor) age 27 of Largs, son of Archibald
McIntyre (Butcher, Journeyman – Deceased) and Margaret McIntyre m/s
Blair
[marriage to]
ELIZABETH BOYD
(Domestic Servant – Spinster) age 20, of Largs, daughter of
Crawford Boyd (Fisherman) and Alice Boyd m/s Wood
Clergyman: John Kinross,
Minister, Largs
Witnesses: William
Crawford and Agnes Wright
(Ref: 1882m/Largs,
Ayrshire 602-7)
It is possible that
Alexander could have been born under the name of Boyd but still no Largs
certificates could be found. It was decided therefore to carry on with the
search in the hope that further clues might shed light on Alexander’s
origins.
In searching for deaths of
married couples it is normally preferable to start with wives as they are
indexed under both married and maiden surnames and it is possible to
search for both names in co-ordination.
Elizabeth’s death was
found as follows:
On 13th
February 1926, at 5.15, at 9 Gallowgate Lane, Largs, ELIZABETH
MCINTYRE, widow of John McIntyre (Flesher) died, aged 65, daughter
of Crawford Boyd (Fisherman – Deceased) and Alice Boyd m/s Wood
(Deceased)
Cause of death:
Peritonitis, probably from malignant condition
Certified by: John Crow
MD
Informant: Archie
McIntyre, son, 9 School Wynd, Largs
(Ref: 1926d/Largs,
Ayrshire 602/1-8)
It took some time to find
John’s death but it was eventually found as follows:
On 9th
September 1914, at 3am, at 1 Lade Street, Largs JOHN MCINTYRE
(Butcher), married to Elizabeth Boyd, died, aged 63, son of Archibald
McIntyre (Butcher – Deceased) and Margaret McIntyre m/s Blair
(Deceased)
Cause of death: Enlarged
prostate, Cystitis, Nephritis
Certified by: John Crow
MD
Informant: Daniel Allan,
Brother-in-law, 14 Bristow Road, Largs
(Ref: 1914d/Largs,
Ayrshire 602/1-39)
John would have been
born in about 1851 whereas Statutory Civil Registration didn’t start
in Scotland until 1855. Before that one has to rely on the Old Parochial
Registers (OPRs). There were almost 1,000 parishes in Scotland, and not
all of the old registers have survived. It was not really until the
early part of the 18th Century that the maintenance of OPRs
became reasonably widespread. The registers were usually the
responsibility of the Session Clerk and some were much more diligent
than others. The secession of 1733 had an adverse effect and many of
those who seceded refused, on principle, to register baptisms with the
Established Church. In 1783, an act was passed imposing a tax of three
pence on every entry; this also deterred many from registering.
John’s birth, and his
parents marriage, were both discovered in Largs:
JOHN,
2nd child of Archibald MCINTYRE in Largs, and
Margaret Blair his wife, was born 20th December 1851, and
baptised on the 25th January 1852 by the Revd J
Kinross
(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire
602/3)
AND: 1848
Sept 9th
Archibald Macintyre [sic] and Margaret Blair
both in this parish. Two-days
(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire
602/3)
No trace, using the OPR
computer index, could be found of an appropriate Archibald McIntyre birth
in Ayrshire. This could mean that he was born elsewhere or that his
baptism simply wasn’t registered.
Although only the 1881 and
1891 Censuses have national name indexes, several earlier censuses have
been indexed here and there by local enthusiasts. Luckily, Largs is the
only Ayrshire district to have been indexed in respect of the 1841 Census.
This led to the following interesting entry:
South Whitliburn,
Largs, Ayrshire – 7th June 1841
James Crawford Head 73
Farmer Yes
… … … …. …
Archibald McIntyre 15
Agricultural Lab No
Peter McIntyre 12 Agricultural Lab No
(Ref: 1841Cen/Largs,
Ayshire 602, bk 7, p6)
It can be seen that the
1841 Census provided much less detailed information than subsequent ones.
The household of James
Crawford was extremely large in terms of family and servants. The right
hand column indicates whether or not the persons were born in the County.
Although there is no name
index for the Largs 1851 Census it was decided to search all eight books
if necessary to find Archibald, mainly to discover his parish of birth. It
took about an hour to find the following entry:
Nelson Street, Allan’s
Land, Largs, Ayrshire – 30th March 1851
Archibald McIntyre Head
Married 27 Flesher Argyllshire, Campbeltown
Margaret McIntyre Wife Married 25 Ayrshire, Largs
James McIntyre Son 2 Ayrshire, Largs
(Ref: 1851Cen/Largs,
Ayrshire, bk8, p6)
No trace could be found in
the OPRs of Archibald’s birth in Campbeltown. It is likely that it was
never recorded.
The following interesting
household was also found during this search.
Lade Street, Largs,
Ayrshire – 30th March 1851
Margaret Boyd Head Widow
74 Ayrshire, Largs
Alexander Boyd Son Married 48 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Ninian Boyd Son Unmarr 43 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
James Boyd Son Unmarr 38 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Crawford Boyd Son Unmarr 32 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
Peter Boyd Son Unmarr 24 Fisherman Ayrshire, Largs
James Boyd Son Grandson 18 Weaver Ayrshire, Largs
(Ref: 1851Cen/Largs,
Ayrshire, bk7, p29)
These were the only
McIntyre entries in Largs and there is little doubt that the Archibald
McIntyre shown was the husband of Margaret Blair and that Peter was his
younger brother.
It would be useful to know
the names of Archibald’s parents by discovering his death certificate.
It is possible to restrict the search for death certificates by a spread
of ages. No appropriate death for Archibald could be found in Largs. He
may have died before 1855 or have died elsewhere.
Before leaving the McIntyre
line a search was made for relevant Monumental Inscriptions in Largs.
These are abbreviated tombstone inscriptions, covering a number of
parishes throughout Scotland, compiled by dedicated family historians. If
one is lucky, then a lot of useful information can be gathered from a
family "plot".
The Ayrshire MIs are on
microfiche, the only McIntyre entry was in respect of an Archibald who
died in 1939 – possibly the son of John and Elisabeth who was the
informant of his mother’s death (Ref: MI 9-1-97 Largs X 120 B). This
death was examined but related to Archibald, son John McIntyre and
Margaret McPhail (Ref: 1939d/Largs, Ayrshire 602/1-126).
The Mormon Family Search
CD-ROM system provides integrated birth and marriage details for the whole
of the British Isles. An attempt was made to find a McIntyre couple who
had sons named Archibald and Peter in about 1826 and 1829 respectively.
None could be found.
Switching briefly to the
Boyd family. It was known that Crawford was still alive on the occasion of
his daughter’s marriage in 1882. A search was therefore made for him in
the 1881 Census leading to the following:
3 Gateside Street,
Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881
Crawford Boyd Head Married
61 Fisherman Largs, Ayrshire
Alice Boyd Wife Married 50 Fisherman’s wife Largs, Ayrshire
Elizabeth Boyd Daug Unmarr 21 Largs, Ayrshire
William Boyd Son Unmarr 16 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex Boyd Son Unmarr 14 Largs, Ayrshire
Mary Boyd Daug 10 Largs, Ayrshire
Helen Boyd Daug 8 Largs, Ayrshire
Jane Boyd Daug 3 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex McMillan Grandson 2 Largs, Ayrshire
James Boyd Son 23 Mason Largs, Ayrshire
(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs,
Ayshire 602, bk 5, p19)
This was extremely
interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander Boyd/McIntyre, but an
Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this Alexander was an orphan to a
son or daughter of Crawford and Alice or, much more likely, that this was
an illegitimate child of Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander Boyd.
A search for Alexander’s
McMillan’s birth in Largs proved negative but of course it is very
possible that Elizabeth went somewhere else to have the baby.
Although there is a
question mark concerning the paternity of Alexander McIntyre, there is no
doubt that his mother was Elizabeth Boyd, daughter of Crawford.
Her parents’ marriage was
found as follows:
1851
June 7 Crawford Boyd,
fisher and Alice Wood, both residing in this Parish.
Two days
(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire
602/3)
It is virtually certain
that the following entry refers to Crawford’s birth:
CRAWFORD
Crawford, lawful son of James Boyd and Margt BOYD
Crawford in Town born 14th,
bapt 21st October 1821
By Mr Mitchell
(Ref: OPR/Largs, Ayrshire
602/3)
Crawford’s death was
found as follows:
On 26th
March 1892, at 8.30am, at Gateside Street, Largs, CRAWFORD BOYD
(Fisherman) married to Alice Wood, died, aged 74, son of James Boyd
(Fisherman – Deceased) and Margaret Boyd m/s Crawford (Deceased)
Cause of death: Cardiac
valvular disease, Hemiplegia 6 days
Certified by: William A
Caskie, MA
Informant: Alexander
Boyd, son, present
(Ref: 1892d/Largs,
Aryshire 602-20)
The 1851 Census entry shows
Margaret as a 74 year old widow. Luckily she survived until 1862 when her
death was found as follows:
On 9th
September 1862, at 8.30pm, at 8 New Street, Largs, Margaret Boyd,
relict of James Boyd, fisherman, died, aged 85, daughter of Ninian
Crawford (Mason) and Margaret Crawford m/s Beith
Cause of death: Senile
debility, dropsy and incipient gangrene of foot
Certified by: I Campbell MD
Informant: Ninian Boyd, son
(Ref: 1862)
There was no sign of Margaret’s
birth, nor of her parents’ marriage.
Commentary on
Alastair’s ancestral research
The information, as presented,
is typical of a standard professional search in which the objective is to get
back as far as possible within the allotted time. This means that, from
time-to-time the searcher has to take short-cuts and to make value judgements as
to what to look for and what to leave out.
The following points are worth
noting:
1.
Although life expectancy was low in the 19th and early 20th
Centuries, it was still often the case that some people lived to a ripe old
age, Margaret Boyd – Alastair’s 5 x great grannie lived to 85. Note that
Crawford Boyd, who was born on 14th October 1821, was baptised a
week later. This was common practice in those days of infant mortality.
2.
As frequently happens, there was a coming together of Highland and Lowland
families in the mid 19th Century. Whereas, in the 1841 Census,
there were just "McIntyres" in Largs, by 1851 there were several,
all originating from Argyllshire. Without a doubt, all of this migration
would have been by sea.
3.
There is at least one instance of illegitimacy. This was extremely common in
Scotland at that time. When this occurs it is often extremely difficult to
find out about the natural father unless of course the parents eventually
married.
A search such as this should
not be treated as an end in itself, it is really just the beginning. Ideally
all the births of siblings should be followed up, as should the households
in all the census years.
Each generation doubles the
numbers of lines to be followed, so there is still scope for more work on
Jessie Brock’s, and Elisabeth Gilmour’s ancestry as well as that of
Alastair’s mother, Isabel Brown.
Once the genealogy has been
done, it creates the framework on which to build the family history. This
task could last a lifetime. Here are just a few suggestions as to what might
be done:
a) Join the Largs and
North Ayrshire Family History Society. This costs only £8 per year and
would be worth every penny. They have their own lending library, they
organise meetings, issue newsletters, answer enquiries and, most important
of all, keep an index of local families which have been researched. This
facility could lead to contact with "cousins" who may well have
additional information.
b) Make contact with
the Largs & District Historical Society. This is based within Largs
Museum and is an invaluable resource containing, as it does, over 1000
photographs of Largs and the surrounding area. It is possible that all the
addresses given in the report could be pinpointed and perhaps photographs
would be found of the McIntyre butcher’s premises and of some of the
relevant streets.
The Society holds back copies
of the Largs & Millport Weekly News from 1877-1996. A glance through
back copies will give a "feel" for life in the town.
Crawford Boyd must have been
a well-known fisherman in the Town. When he died in 1892 it is probable that
the local newspaper carried an obituary.
c) Visit the Scottish
Fisheries Museum, Anstruther. What was life like being a fisherman in the
1800’s? What type of fishing operated out of Largs? Although Anstruther is
on the East Coast of Scotland, this Museum includes material covering all
aspects of Scottish fisheries.
d) Examine the Kirk
Session records. These often provide much additional background information
on families within a parish – particularly if they had misbehaved in some
way! Most of these records are kept in the National Archives of Scotland,
Edinburgh.
e) Wills and
Testaments – Relatively few people in Scotland owned anything of any value
so there was really no need for them to leave a will. John McIntyre is shown
as being a journeyman, not a master butcher. This means that he was employed
and paid a daily rate so it is unlikely that there would be any legal
documents relevant to his family.
f)
Walk the streets of
Largs – there is nothing to compare with actually visiting the place where
one’s ancestors lived and worked.
This concludes the £185
search which is for one line of the family.
A comprehensive search costs £295.00 and for
that you get another line of your family and in this case here is what was found
out about my mothers line.
An Investigation into
the Ancestry of Isobel Fowler Brown
The information provided in advance was that Isabel married John
McIntyre on 16th July 1937. The marriage certificate showed that she was aged 25 and that she was
the daughter of James Brown and Anne Reid.
Her birth certificate was found as follows:
On 21st October
1911 at 1pm at 5 Walter Street, Yoker
ISABELLA FOWLER BROWN was born, daughter
of James Brown (Engine
Fitter) and Annie Fowler Brown m/s Reid
Marriage of parents: 30th
November 1894, Kelvin,
Glasgow
Informant: James Brown, father, present
(Ref 1911b/Scotstoun & Yoker 575/2-307)
This led without any difficulty to the parents’ marriage:
On 30 November 1894 at 185 Hill Street, Glasgow, after
publication according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland
JAMES BROWN (Engine Fitter, Journeyman
- Bachelor) age 27, of 4 Wilton Street, Glasgow, son of John Brown (formerly Colliery
Manager) and Margaret Brown m/s Law [marriage to]
ANNIE FOWLER REID (Biscuit Factory Forewoman
— Spinster) age 25, of 184
Bellfield
Street, Glasgow, daughter of Reuben Reid (Tailor — Deceased,) and Ann Reid
m/s Fowler
(Deceased,)
Clergyman: James Weatherhead BD, Minister
of
North Woodside Free Church
Witnesses: William Gebbie Aitken and Jessie Goldie
(Ref 1894m/Kelvin, Glasgow 644/9-526)
"James Brown" is such a common name that to search for his
birth in about 1867 would be extremely time-consuming. An attempt to find
the parents’ marriage certificate, which might have provided a clue as
to where James was born, was unsuccessful. It was presumed therefore that
the marriage occurred before 1855 which is when Statutory Civil
Registration began.
An alternative line of approach was to first search for the death
certificates of both Anne Reid and Margaret Law taking advantage of the
co-incident indexing scheme (using maiden and married names) for the
deaths of married women.
These were found as follows:
On 27th April 1956, at 12 noon, at 247 Langholm
Street, Glasgow
ANNE FOWLER BROWN,
widow of James Brown (Engine Fitter) died, aged 86, daughter of Reuben
Reid Taylor (Tailor - Deceased) and Anne Reid m/s Fowler
Cause of death: Acute pulmonary oedema, Myocardial degeneration
Witnesses: Alex Lawson, son-in-law, 2196 Dumbarton Road, Glasgow
(Ref: 1956d/Partick, Glasgow 644/8-482)
AND:
On 19th July
1904, at 8.25pm, at Mauchline Road, Hurlford
MARGARET BROWN (Widow of John Brown - Colliery Manager)
Illegitimate, died aged 74, daughter of Janet Law (Domestic Servant -
Deceased)
Cause of Death: Senile decay, 6 months
Certified by: Wm Baxter
Informant: David Findlay, son-in-law, present
(Ref:
1904d/Hurlford, Ayrshire 611/2-37) The term
"illegitimate" refers to Margaret, not to her husband. Searching
for the birth of a James Brown in about 1867 using the computerised index
to the Statutory certificates would be extremely time-consuming especially
without a clear indication as to place of birth. Instead,
the Mormon CD-ROM based Family Search system was employed. This, amongst
other things, permits searches to be made showing the recorded
baptisms/birth to specific parents (up to 1875). This revealed the
following births to John & Margaret, all in Riccarton, Ayrshire:
Mary
1856
George 1860
John Galloway 1862
Jessie 1865
James 1867
This led to Jame's birth certificate as
follows:
On 27th September 1867 at 0.05 am at
Barleith
JAMES BROWN was born, son of John Brown (Colliery Clerk) and Margaret
Brown m/s Law
Marriage of parents: 22nd December 1848, Hurlford
Informant: John Brown, father, present
(Ref:
1867b/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611-209) This provided
sufficient information to track down the family in the 1881 Census as
follows: Barleith Colliery,
Riccarton, Ayrshire - 4th April 1881
John Brown |
Head Married |
58* |
Colliery Clerk |
Lanarksh, Hamilton |
Margaret Brown
|
Wife
Married
|
51
|
Clerk's wife
|
Ayrsh, Galston
|
John Galloway
Brown
|
Son
|
18
|
Scholar
|
Ayrsh,
Riccarton
|
Jessie Brown
|
Daug
|
15
|
Scholar
|
Ayrsh,
Riccarton
|
James Brown
|
Son
|
13
|
Scholar
|
Ayrsh,
Riccarton
|
(Ref: 1861Cen/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611, bk5, p25) Riccarton
Road, Hurlford, Ayrshire - 30th March 1851
John Brown |
Head Married |
23 |
Labourer (Coal) |
Lararksh, Hamilton |
Margaret Brown
|
Wife Married
|
21
|
|
Ayrshire, Galston
|
Janet Brown
|
Daug
|
1
|
|
Ayrshire, Riccarton
|
(Ref: 1851Cen/Riccarton, Ayrshire 611, bk4, p22) It
had been hoped to discover the parents of John and/or Margaret living in
the above household in one or other of these census years but,
unfortunately, this wasn't the case. The most
important finding was John Brown's age in the 1851 and 1861 Census
Returns. This indicates that his age in the 1881 Census should have been
53, and not 58 as surmised. In analysing the returns, the clerks used
crayon to mark off ages and this has resulted in many of them being
partially obliterated, especially when examined on microfilm. In
an attempt to narrow the period of search for John Brown's death a search
was made of the Ayrshire name index for the 1891 Census in the hope that
he, or simply, Margaret would be found. This took some time but the couple
were eventually found in Ochiltree as follows: Loudonabon*
Cott, Ochiltree, Ayrshire - 5th April 1891
John Brown |
Head Married |
63 |
Colliery Clerk |
Lanarksh, Hamilton |
Margaret Brown |
Wife Married |
61 |
|
Ayrshire, Galston |
James Brown |
Son |
23 |
Engineer Fitter |
Ayrshire, Riccarton |
(Ref: 1891Cen/Ochiltree, Ayrshire 609, bk4, p7) The
Property had 6 windowed rooms. John's death
certificate shows that he pre-deceased his wife by just a couple of
months:
On 10th May 1904, at 5.15pm, at
Mauchline Road, Hurlford
JOHN BROWN (Retired Colliery Manager) married to Margaret Law,
died, aged 75, son of George Brown (Gardener - Deceased) and Janet Brown
m/s Leggat (Deceased)
Cause of death: Heart failure 1 year, 6 months
Certified by: William Baxter MD Ed
Informant: James Brown, son, 13 Alexander Street, Clydebank
(Ref: 1904d/Hurlford, Ayrshire 611/2-23)
It is
interesting to note, in the census returns, John is described as a
"colliery clerk, even at the age of 63, however, on his son's
marriage certificate (1894) and on both his, and his wife's death
certificates, he is described as a "colliery manager". John's
certificate indicates the names of his parents, thus enabling his birth in
Hamilton, and his parents' marriage to be found as follows:
18th
Feb 1828
John lawful son to George Brown and Margaret Brown Legate [sic], Spouses
Ref:
OPR/Hamilton, Lanarkshire 647/5) AND:
George
Brown and Margaret Legate both in this parish for 2 days 4 & 11
November 1827.
(Ref: OPR/Hamilton, Lanarkshire
647/5) Note that the mother's name doesn't
correspond exactly to that given by James at the time of his father's
death. This often happens and it is not surprising bearing in mind that
the grandparents were probably not known personally to the informant. Note
also that Margaret would have been 5 - 6 months pregnant when she was
married. An extensive search was conducted in the
hope of finding Margaret Legget's post-1855 death. This was not
successful, possibly because she died before then, or because another
spelling variant was used. There is a specific
name index to the 1851 Census in Hamilton. There was no sign of any entry
relevant to George and Margaret. Without knowing their parents' names it
would be difficult to make further progress. Further,
as Margaret Law was illegitimate, it is not surprising that her death in
Galston could not be found. It is possible that there is an entry,
rebuking her mother, in the Galston Kirk Session records. These are
however kept in the National Archives of Scotland and are unindexed. As
the time allocated for this search had expired the search was terminated
at this point.
So in conclusion, all of the above information was
obtained by paying a search fee of £295.00 which I figure is excellent
value for money :-) I hope this copy of my
own family search has given you some indication as to what work goes into
these searches and how a good professional firm can be of considerable
help. I'd certainly recommend Scottish
Roots to anyone looking to do a similar search. Do remember
however that this is just my results and your results could come up with
more or less information. I might add that I was also supplied with a
family tree chart and a photocopy of a map showing the Hurlford and
Riccarton areas.
From my DNA I'm apparently part of
the clan Jasmine, one of the seven daughters of Eve :-)
And this is my DNA Y-Line
I
have some additional DNA information here!
John Henderson did a
little more investigation on my genealogy and here is what he found...
My word
Alastair!
I happened to
be looking again at your wee biog. on ES and then moved on to your
paternal ancestry problem! It is a ‘minefield’!
I thought my ancestral lines had a lot of illegitimacy …. Your Boyd
ancestry (never genetically McIntyre) equals mine and more.
Your early
professional report says,
This was
extremely interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander
Boyd/McIntyre, but an Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this
Alexander was an orphan to a son or daughter of Crawford and Alice
or, [much more likely, that this was an illegitimate child of
Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander Boyd......
John
finds, plus attached images from GRO and transcriptions from
ANCESTRY.com
YES!
ALEXANDER WAS BORN ILLEGITIMATELY TO ELIZABETH BOYD AS 'ALEXANDER
BOYD' AT 2 P.M.ON 17TH DECEMBER, 1878 IN GATESIDE STREET, LARGS ]
c.f. GRO Image Attached
N.B. There
were McMillans living almost next door to the Boyds in 1881 in
Gateside, Largs …. But no Alexander McMillan … he had probably
bolted by then!
This was extremely
interesting showing, as it does, no Alexander Boyd/McIntyre, but an
Alexander McMillan. It is possible that this Alexander was an orphan to
a son or daughter of Crawford and Alice or, [much more likely, that this
was an illegitimate child of Elizabeth who was later known as Alexander
Boyd...... YES! HE WAS BORN ILLEGITIMATELY TO ELIZABETH BOYD AS
'ALEXANDER BOYD' AT 2 P.M.ON 17TH DECEMBER, 1878 IN GATESIDE STREET,
LARGS ] c.f. GRO Image
*********************************************************************************************************
1861 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Boyd
Age: under 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Crawford
Mother's Name: Elleas [Alice]
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 3 School Wynd
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 4
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_88
*************************************
1871 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Boyd
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Crawford
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: Gateside St Lades Land
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 104
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_113
Household Members: Name Age
Crawford Boyd 52
Alice Boyd 40
Jamest Boyd 14
Elizabeth Boyd 10
Alice Boyd 8 [Had illegit. Wilhelmina in Feb. 1883] Alice died
1911******m. Jas Todd
William Boyd 6
Alexander Boyd 3
Mary Boyd 1
***********************************************************
Dwelling: Robshill Farm Ho
Census Place: Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203578 GRO Ref Volume 571 EnumDist 6 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Alice BOYD U 18 F Largs, Ayr, Scotland *****
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm
Robert CRAIG M 50 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer (88 Acres All Arable Employing 1 Man 2 Girls
Margaret CRAIG M 39 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Farmers Wife
John CRAIG 10 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Robert CRAIG 8 M Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Marion M. CRAIG 6 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Agnes CRAIG 4 F Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John COLQUHOUN U 38 M England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm
Mary CHALMERS U 17 F Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Servant Farm
*******************************************************
1891 Scotland Census
Name: Alice Todd [BOYD]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 115 St James Road
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_262
Household Members: Name Age
James Todd 26
Alice Todd 26
Jessie Todd 6
George Todd 4
Margaret Todd 2
Alice Todd 8 Months
****************************************
1881 Scotland Census
3 Gateside Street, Largs, Ayrshire – 4th April 1881
Crawford Boyd Head Married 61 Fisherman Largs, Ayrshire
Alice Boyd Wife Married 50 Fisherman’s wife Largs, Ayrshire
Elizabeth Boyd Daug Unmarr 21 Largs, Ayrshire *****
William Boyd Son Unmarr 16 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex Boyd Son Unmarr 14 Largs, Ayrshire
Mary Boyd Daug 10 Largs, Ayrshire
Helen Boyd Daug 8 Largs, Ayrshire
Jane Boyd Daug 3 Largs, Ayrshire
Alex McMillan Grandson 2 Largs, Ayrshire
James Boyd Son 23 Mason Largs, Ayrshire
(Ref: 1881Cen/Largs, Ayshire 602, bk 5, p19)
********************************************************************
1901 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander McIntyre
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre *******
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
Occupation: Carter
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
Household Members: Name Age
David Brown 29 HEAD
Ellen Brown 26
Ellen Brown 4
David Brown 1
Minnie Boyd 18 [Wilhelmina Boyd] born iilegit. to Alice Boyd in Largs]
c.f. Crawford's Birth Image GRO
Crawford Boyd 1month
Alexander McIntyre 23 ********
and ...
Name: Minnie Boyd
[Wilhelmina Boyd]
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
Occupation: Servant (domestic)
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
and
Name: Crawford Boyd
Age: 1mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire ******
Registration Number: 624
Registration district: Blantyre
Civil parish: Blantyre
Town: Blantyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Auchintibber 7 Craig Row
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 40
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1901_245
***********************************************
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
IT LOOKS VERY LIKELY THAT ALEX BOYD McMILLAN MCINTYRE
HAD AN ILLEGITIMATE SON CRAWFORD BOYD WITH HIS COUSIN
WILHELMINA BOYD IN GLASGOW IN 1901 BEFORE HE MARRIED
JESSIE BROCK IN 1903
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
***********************************************
1901 Scotland Census
Name: John McIntyre
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elisabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602/1
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 40 Gateside Street
Occupation: Butcher
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_231
Household Members: Name Age
John McIntyre 47
Elisabeth McIntyre 35 [age error ?] BOYD
Elisabeth McIntyre 9 daughter
Agnes McIntyre 7 daughter
Archibald McIntyre 5 son
and ..
Name: Elisabeth McIntyre
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Wife ********
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602/1
Registration district: Largs
Civil parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: 40 Gateside Street
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_231
The following shows that Alex Boyd McIntyre and
Wilhelmina Boyd went back from
Blantyre
to Gateside, Largs c. 1902 where her son Crawford died aged 1 year 5
months of Croup in August 1902. She returned to Glasgow to marry John
Paxton there in April 1903, while Alex then married Jessie Brock in
September, 1903 in Largs !
NINIAN CRAFORD
Spouse: MEG BEITH
Marriage: JUL 1776 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
MARGRET CRAFORD [**** married James Boyd]
Christening: 21 MAY 1777 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: NINIAN CRAFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
ELIZEABETH CRAWFORD
Christening: 23 MAR 1788 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: NINNIAN CRAWFORD
Mother: MARGEART BEITH
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
You may have a lot of data on your maternal
side .... but here attached is a start back from 1894. The load of data
in the .txt file got a start from lucky [EXPERIENCED SKILFUL] guessing
of the timing of your grandparents' James Brown Anne Reid's marriage
1901 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hurlford, Ayrshire [Riccarton]
Registration Number: 501
Registration district: Old Kilpatrick
Civil parish: Old Kilpatrick
Town: Clydebank
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 89 Glasgow Road Lindsays Land
Occupation: Marine Engine Fitter
ED: 19
Household schedule number: 195
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_173
Household Members: Name Age
James Brown 34
Annie Brown 30
Margaret Brown 3
*******************************************************
***************************************************
JOHN BROWN
Spouse: MARGARET LAW
Marriage: 22 DEC 1848 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Children;
JAMES BROWN *****
Birth: 27 SEP 1867 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JOHN BROWN
Mother: MARGARET LAW
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
JANET BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 JUL 1849 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
MARGARET BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 OCT 1856 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
GEORGE BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 17 JAN 1860 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JOHN GALLOWAY BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 AUG 1862 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JESSIE BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 JUN 1865 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
JAMES BROWN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 SEP 1867 Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
*************************************************************************
1861 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Barleith Cooliery
Occupation: Colliery Clerk
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1861_89
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 33
Margaret Brown 31
Janet Brown 11
Margaret Brown 4
George Brown 1
AND
Name: Margaret Brown
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Galston, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Barleith Cooliery
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1861_89
*********************************************
1871 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bailith Dollars Cottage
Occupation: Assistant Colliery Manager
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_114
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 43
Margaret Brown 41
John G Brown 8
Jessie Brown 5
James Brown 3 *******
AND
1871 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown *******
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Riccarton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 611
Registration district: Riccarton
Civil parish: Riccarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bailith Dollars Cottage
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1871_114
***********************************************************
1881 Scotland Census
Dwelling: 1 Barlieth Colliery
Census Place: Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203607 GRO Ref Volume 611 EnumDist 6 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John BROWN M 53 M Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Colliery Clerk
Margaret BROWN M 51 F Galston, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Clerks Wife
John Galloway BROWN U 18 M Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jessie BROWN 15 F Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
James BROWN 13 M Riccarton, Ayr, Scotland ******
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
*******************************************
1891 Scotland Census
Name: John Brown
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 609
Registration district: Ochiltree
Civil parish: Ochiltree
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudonston Cott
Occupation: Colliery Clerk
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_214
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 63
Margaret Brown 61
James Brown 23 *****
AND
1891 Scotland Census
Name: James Brown *******
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Riccarton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 609
Registration district: Ochiltree
Civil parish: Ochiltree
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudonston Cott
Occupation: Engineer (Fitter)
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_214
******************************************
1901 Scotland Census
Name: Jessie Brock
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil parish: Maryhill
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Glasgow
Occupation: Wardmaid
ED: Maryhill Hospital
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_243
***********************************
1891 Scotland Census
Name: Janet Brock ******
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Robert W
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 121 So Wellington
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 54
Household schedule number: 45
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1891_287
Household Members: Name Age
Robert W Brock 40 HEAD
Elizabeth Brock 40
Elizabeth Brock 16
Janet Brock 13 *****
Barbria Brock 11
Andrew Brock 7
Robert Brock 1
*****
Name: Robert W Brock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 121 So Wellington
Occupation: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
*****
Name: Elizabeth Brock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert W
Gender: Female
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanarkshire
******************************************
Dwelling: 79 So Wellington St
1881 Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203670 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 39 Page 19
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert BROCK M 30 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
Elizabeth BROCK M 31 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
[Gilmour] Rel: Wife
Elizabeth BROCK 6 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Janet BROCK 3 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Barbara BROCK 1 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
**********************************************************************************************
ROBERT BROCK
Spouse: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Marriage: 17 JUL 1873 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
******************************************************************
ELIZABETH TAIT BROCK
Birth: 18 JUN 1874 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ROBERT WALLACE BROCK
Mother: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
**********1875 cut-off for Mormon OPRs ***************************
1871 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
death in 1872 Father John Brock Mother Mary Wright
JOHN BROCK
Spouse: MARY WRIGHT
Marriage: 27 JUN 1794 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
ANDREW BROCK
Birth: 27 DEC 1799 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Death: 04 FEB 1872 Calton Glasgow c.f. GRO Image of Death
Father: JOHN BROCK
Mother: MARY WRIGHT
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
Other Children:
CHARLES BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 JUN 1802 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
MARY DENISTON BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 DEC 1805 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
JAMES DENNISTOUN BROCK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAY 1815 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
************************************************************
1871 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Annuitant
ED: 50
Household schedule number: 10
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_131
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 71
Jannet Brock 39
Andrew Brock 22
Robert Brock 20
Jannet Brock 9
****
Name: Jannet Brock
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
******
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Tinnplate Worker
*****
Name: Robert Brock
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 New Street
Occupation: Tinnplate Worker
******
Name: Jannet Brock
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Jannet
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
********************************************************
ANDREW BROCK
Spouse: JANET WALLACE
Marriage: 31 DEC 1847 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
ANDREW BROCK
Birth: 08 FEB 1849 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
ROBERT W BROCK b. 1851 February
JOHN FERGUSON BROCK
Birth: 09 DEC 1858 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
JANET WALLACE BROCK
Birth: 13 APR 1861 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ANDREW BROCK
Mother: JANET WALLACE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
*********************************
*********************************
JANET WALLACE
Birth: 15 MAR 1819 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: ROBERT WALLACE
Mother: MARGARET FERGUSON
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
MARGARET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 SEP 1812 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
JEAN WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 MAR 1817 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
JANET WALLACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 15 MAR 1819 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
ROBERT WALLACE
Spouse: MARGARET FERGUSON
Marriage: 20 SEP 1811 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
*************************************************************************
1861 Scotland Census --- COMMENT - This Census is most confusing !
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 60 ...
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jinnet
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 St Mungo St
Occupation: Cloths Laper
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 33
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_102
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 60
Jinnet Brock 42
Margaret Brock 20
Andrew Brock 12
Robert Brock 10
Agnes Wallace 25
Martha B Black 2
Mary Hamilton 1
William Frager 24
Jaen Frager 60
Jessie Frizer 21
***************************
Name: Jinnet Brock
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: Margaret Brock
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
**************************************
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: Robert Brock *************************
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
***************************************
Name: Agnes Wallace
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
***************************************
Name: Martha B Black
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
*********************************
Name: Mary Hamilton
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
************************************
Name: William Frager
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
***********************************
Name: Jaen Frager
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkcaldy, Fife
***********************************
Name: Jessie Frizer
[Jessie Brock]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Andrew
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
********************************
**********************************
*****************************************************************
1851 Scotland Census
Name: Andrew Brock
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Janet [Wallace]
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 36 So St Mungo St
Occupation: Cloth Lapper
ED: 3
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_161
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Brock 40
Janet Brock 32 ********Age
Margaret Brock 11 Daughter
Andrew Brock 2 Son
Robert W Brock 2 Mo Son *******
***************************************
Dwelling: 79 So Wellington St
1881 Census Place: Govan, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203670 GRO Ref Volume 644-11 EnumDist 39 Page 19
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert BROCK M 30 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Tinsmith & Gasfitter
Elizabeth BROCK M 31 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
[Gilmour] Rel: Wife
Elizabeth BROCK 6 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Janet BROCK 3 F East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Barbara BROCK 1 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
**********************************************************************************************
ROBERT BROCK
Spouse: ELIZABETH GILMOUR
Marriage: 17 JUL 1873 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
1891 Children
Elizabeth Brock 16
Janet Brock 13 *****
Barbria Brock 11
Andrew Brock 7
Robert Brock 1
***************************************
1871 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Gilmour
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: E Kilbride, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 627
Registration district: Cambuslang
Civil parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Lilbickhills Farm
Occupation: Darrgmaid Domestic Servt
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1871_119
N.B. Your maternal grandparents' 1894
marriage image has errors [very common in this business! .... especially
Censuses] ... It was not an Ann Fowler, but an Isabella Fowler who had 3
illegitimate kids with Reuben Reid, including your grannie Annie Fowler
Reid, who was only 24 not 25 when she married in 1894.
ROBERT REID
Birth: 12 OCT 1867 Anderston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
ANN REID *******
Birth: 09 JAN 1870 Anderston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
HENRIETTA MARGARET REID
Birth: 22 AUG 1871 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
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HENRIETTA MARGARET REID
Birth: 22 AUG 1871 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: REUBEN REID
Mother: ISABELLA FOWLER
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
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1871 Scotland Census
Name: Reuben Reid
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Thurso, Caithnesshire
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 41 Commercial Road
Occupation: Journeyman Tailor
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 124
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_140
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Reid 33
Robert Reid 3 Son
Anne Reid 1 Daughter ******
Isabella Fowler 26
****
Name: Isabella Fowler *******
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Servant ! ! !
Gender: Female
Where born: Invernesshire, Inverness
Registration Number: 644/10
***
Name: Anne Reid
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Reuben
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, L Shire
Registration Number: 644/10
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Dwelling: 9 Mains Street
1881 Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203655 GRO Ref Volume 644-7 EnumDist 67 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Ruben REID U 41 M Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Lodger (Head)
Occ: Tailor
Robert REID 13 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Apprentice Jeweller
Ann REID 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
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1881 Scotland Census
Name: Ann Fowler
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Cawdor G, Inverness-Shire
Registration Number: 122
Registration district: Cawdor
Civil parish: Cawdor
County: Nairnshire
Address: Ballintore
Occupation: Agricultular Labourer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_35
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fowler 74
Ann Fowler 36
*****
Name: Ann Fowler
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Croy G, Inverness-Shire
Registration Number: 122
Registration district: Cawdor
Civil parish: Cawdor
County: Nairnshire
Address: Ballintore
Occupation: Forester's Widow
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1861 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella Fowler
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness, Invernessshire
Registration Number: 98
Registration district: Inverness
Civil parish: Inverness
Town: Inverness
County: Inverness
Address: 35 Haugh
Occupation: Housemaid
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 146
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_13
Household Members: Name Age
James Cameron 52
Christina A Cameron 20
Jermina Cameron 18
Isabella Fowler 18
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ISABELLA FOWLER
Birth: 07 DEC 1842
Christening: 05 JAN 1843 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Father: JAMES FOWLER
Mother: ANNE MOORE
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
JAMES FOWLER
Spouse: ANN MOIR
Marriage: 01 FEB 1838 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
1. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 NOV 1840
2. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 NOV 1840 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
3. ANN FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 FEB 1850
4. ANN FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 MAR 1850 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
5. JAMES FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 DEC 1838
6. JAMES FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 DEC 1838 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
7. ISABELLA FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 DEC 1842
8. ISABELLA FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 JAN 1843 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
9. CATHARINE FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 OCT 1855 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
10. WILLIAM FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 DEC 1858 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
11. ALEXANDER FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 02 JAN 1853
12. ALEXANDER FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 FEB 1853 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
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JAMES FOULER
Christening: 12 MAR 1816 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Father: JAMES FOULER
Mother: ISOBEL MCLENNAN
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
1. JANET FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 MAR 1808 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
2. LEXIE FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1813 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
3. ELIZABETH FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 APR 1810 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
4. JAMES FOULER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAR 1816 Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
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RHUBARD REID
Birth: 05 OCT 1837
Christening: 06 NOV 1837 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Father: ROBERT REID
Mother: HENRIETTA MCKAY
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record
ROBERT REID
Spouse: HENRIETTA MACKAY
Marriage: 04 DEC 1835 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Other Children:
1. RICHARD REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 NOV 1837 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
2. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 AUG 1841 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
3. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 MAR 1841
4. BARBARA REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 SEP 1841 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
5. ROBERT REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 31 AUG 1855 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
6. ESTHER REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 18 AUG 1839 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
7. WILLIAM BRUCE REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 NOV 1857 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
8. ALEXANDER REID - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1836 Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
CRAWFORD BOYD
Spouse: ALICE WOOD
Marriage: 07 JUN 1851 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
1. MARGARET BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 OCT 1852 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
2. ELISABETH BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 APR 1861 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
3. ALICE BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 NOV 1862 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
4. MARY BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 AUG 1870 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
5. ELLEN WOOD BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 OCT 1873 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
6. WILLIAM BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 JUN 1865 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
7. AGNES BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JAN 1855 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
8. ALEXANDER BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 NOV 1867 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
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JANET BOYD
Christening: 30 JUN 1819 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JAMES BOYD
Mother: MARGARET CRAWFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
SHUSAN BOYD
Christening: 02 FEB 1806 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Father: JAMES BOYD
Mother: MARGARET CRAWFORD
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
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CRAWFORD BOYD
Spouse: ALICE WOOD
Marriage: 07 JUN 1851 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
1. MARGARET BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 OCT 1852 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
2. ELISABETH BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 03 APR 1861 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
3. ALICE BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 04 NOV 1862 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
4. MARY BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 AUG 1870 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
5. ELLEN WOOD BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 08 OCT 1873 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
6. WILLIAM BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 JUN 1865 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
7. AGNES BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JAN 1855 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
8. ALEXANDER BOYD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 NOV 1867 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
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ELLIS_ WOOD [Alice]
Christening: 19 AUG 1832 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Death: 1896
Father: WILLIAM WOOD
Mother: AGNESS LAMONT
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the
record.
WILLIAM WOOD
Spouse: AGNES LAMOND
Marriage: 26 MAY 1821 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Children:
1. AGNESS WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1827 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
2. JANET WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1834 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
3. ELIZABETH WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 14 JUN 1825 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
4. ELLIS_ WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 AUG 1832 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
5. MARGARET WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 FEB 1838 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
6. SARRAH WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 JUN 1823 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
7. HELLEN WOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 AUG 1821 Largs, Ayr, Scotland
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On 19th December 2012 John sent in this
note:
Alastair,
Re- the probable father of your
grandfather, the illegitimate Alexander Boyd (later called McIntyre)
born to
Elizabeth Boyd
in 1878 in
Largs, I have found the only relevant
Alexander
McMillan
candidate for the father.
Assuming fish trade between
Largs and Killean/Kenchenzie,
Argyll, and knowing from the attached Censuses that both Alexander
McMillan Snr. and
son Alexander McMillan Jnr.
were fishermen, and from your notes that
Elizabeth Boyd’s
father
Crawford Boyd was a prominent fisherman in
Largs, young
Alexander
probably had a liaison with
Elizabeth
whilst across the water !
Thus, your paternal line blood may well be that of McMillan of
Argyll !
Also attached is the death of Jessie
(Brock) McIntyre [signed by your father, John G. McIntyre] that
shows that Alexander (McMillan/Boyd) McIntyre was still alive in
1946.
I still cannot pin down Alexander’s
death, nor the 1909 registration of the birth of your father, John
Gilmour McIntyre, although you may have his birth certificate from
his papers after his death in 1986.
Aye,
John
Here is my
McMillan Genealogy
More genealogy received on 29th July
2013
Modified Register for Alexander Boyd
later McIntyre W
First Generation
1. Alexander Boyd later McIntyre [Watchman] was born on 17 Dec 1878
in Gateside St. Largs Ayr Scotland. He died on 19 Mar 1952 in Royal
Inf. Glasgow Us. Res. 50 Charlotte Street Glasgow Lanark Scotland.
The cause of death was Hypertension Cerebral Thrombosis.
Alexander married Jessie Wallace Brock daughter of Robert Wallace
Brock and Elizabeth Gilmour on 4 Sep 1903 in 40 Gateside Street
Largs Ayr Scotland. Jessie was born in 1877 in East Kilbride,
Lanark, Scotland. She died on 5 Oct 1946 in 133 Balornock Road Us.
Res. 21 Plant Street Glasgpw Lanark Scotland.
They had the following children:
i. John McIntyre was born on 7 Jul 1909. He died on 13 Jul 1986.
Second Generation
2. John McIntyre (Alexander) was born on 7 Jul 1909 in Glasgow
Lanark Scotland. He died on 13 Jul 1986 in Grangemouth Stirling
Scotland.
John married Isabella Fowler Brown daughter of James Brown and Annie
Fowler Reid on 16 Jul 1937 in 421 Langholm Street, Glasgow, Lanark,
Scotland. Isabella was born in 1911 in Scotstoun and Yoker Glasgow
Lanark Scotland. She died on 24 Aug 1985 in Grangemouth Stirling
Scotland.
They had the following children:
i. Alastair McIntyre was born on 31 Jan 1951 in Glasgow Lanark
Scotland.
Also.. got in some information from the
Boyd historian.
Seven daughters of Eve - Jasmine
The final and most recent of the seven
remarkable women was Jasmine. Unlike every other clan, the
descendents of Jasmine came from a long like of farmers. This is
also the clan from which Sykes’ opponents had (partially)
incorrectly claimed had overrun Europe. Sykes imagines Jasmine’s
band having developed one of the first systems of agriculture,
which, one thousand years after Jasmine, has spread all over eastern
Europe. Today, just under 17 percent of modern Europeans are direct
maternal descendents of Jasmine.
Time Period: 10,000 years ago
Band Type: Farmers
Climate: Much warmer—with the Great Ice Age officially over,
temperatures rapidly climbed towards present-day levels
Ancient Location: Syria, along the Euphrates River
Modern Location: Unlike the other clans, descendents of Jasmine are
not evenly dispersed across Europe. Descendents of Jasmine are found
along the Mediterranean coast from Spain to Portugal, western
Britain, Whaleys, western Scotland, and throughout northern Europe
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